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		<title>Comment on #24 Everybody goes to heaven, right? by Robert Cote</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 02:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not believe that there is a hell. Therefore everyone will go to Heaven.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on #57 Did Jesus have to die? by Beth Ellen Cooper-Davis</title>
		<link>http://thenakedtheologian.com/2012/03/05/57-did-jesus-have-to-die/#comment-568</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Abelard also developed what&#039;s known as Moral Atonement Theory...that Jesus becomes the absolute moral exemplar by taking his teachings to their absolute logical conclusion--death.

In some ways, I think that stating that &quot;Jesus was born to die&quot; minimizes the subversive victory of the story of the Resurrection. If Good Friday brought chaos and uncertainty to his followers, Easter is the reversal of that. It&#039;s Love being elevated over the way of Empire. The Romans do not win. In Hunger Games parlance...he changes the game. Jesus know the possibility that awaited him...but I don&#039;t think it was a foregone conclusion. Part of the power of his story is that he went to his death so calmly. Not because he knew already what all was happening, but because he knew that the death of one would mean the liberation of hundreds. His message and teachings would become that much more powerful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abelard also developed what&#8217;s known as Moral Atonement Theory&#8230;that Jesus becomes the absolute moral exemplar by taking his teachings to their absolute logical conclusion&#8211;death.</p>
<p>In some ways, I think that stating that &#8220;Jesus was born to die&#8221; minimizes the subversive victory of the story of the Resurrection. If Good Friday brought chaos and uncertainty to his followers, Easter is the reversal of that. It&#8217;s Love being elevated over the way of Empire. The Romans do not win. In Hunger Games parlance&#8230;he changes the game. Jesus know the possibility that awaited him&#8230;but I don&#8217;t think it was a foregone conclusion. Part of the power of his story is that he went to his death so calmly. Not because he knew already what all was happening, but because he knew that the death of one would mean the liberation of hundreds. His message and teachings would become that much more powerful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on #57 Did Jesus have to die? by randy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Belief to be true. But, belief in what? Everyone on the planet, past present and future knows what is right and wrong. It is in their created DNA. The standard may be different for all but we all know that no one has kept even their own  standard perfectly much less God&#039;s. However, we do all know we ought to do the right thing. This &#039;ought to&#039; inner obligation is universal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belief to be true. But, belief in what? Everyone on the planet, past present and future knows what is right and wrong. It is in their created DNA. The standard may be different for all but we all know that no one has kept even their own  standard perfectly much less God&#8217;s. However, we do all know we ought to do the right thing. This &#8216;ought to&#8217; inner obligation is universal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on #57 Did Jesus have to die? by rexsty</title>
		<link>http://thenakedtheologian.com/2012/03/05/57-did-jesus-have-to-die/#comment-548</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 05:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anselm&#039;s capacity for integrating diverse questions into seemingly coherent and even obvious (but only after his explanations) answers named his age: scholasticism. He was a magnificent scholar. Still, it was Paul of Tarsus who, with his image of Jesus as a second Adam, already had broken the ground that Anselm tilled so adroitly with the doctrine of atonement. Not every lose-end was knotted quite so tightly, at least not until the inquisitions began 75 years after Anselm&#039;s death, developing unprecedented ferocity by the time the Jews of Spain were put in their place.

Historians offer varied accounts for the likely reasons, if one needs something other than common avarice. Unmentioned, in my experience, is that the Abrahamic religions share the story of the father and his son, Isaac, that prohibits the ritual sacrifice of humans. &quot;The ram&quot; can be sacrificed. The human, child or adult, cannot--righteously. 

I call myself a &quot;Good Friday Christian,&quot; as that is what I celebrate at the time of the Spring equinox. It is a time to weep for all the innocent who have been put to death: Jesus of Nazareth, to be sure; six million Hebrews two millennia later, again to be sure. No one can be sure how many lives taken under the order of our legal system were undeserving of their punishment. Good Friday betokens how ready we, as righteous, are to take a human life, against all the evidence of our flawed capacity for judgments even far less severe.

I have found no good reason for all those deaths, as no reason can account for the death of Jesus. So I no longer ask why he had to die. He did not have to die, anymore than any of the other innocents. Instead I ask why we are so timid and cowardly in the face of such horror. Why must we have a good reason to object? Otherwise, then, we must face, what? The abyss, as Heidegger names it? Or the absurd, as the secular existentialists name it? Neither the abyss nor the absurd has power to command us. Nor do they offer us a mirror to admire ourselves as did Narcissus in the pool.

While I do not confine myself to the theology of Ecclesiastes, time has certainly showed us the strength of the plaint, &quot;Vanity, vanity, all is vanity.&quot; I do not believe the man who died a criminal&#039;s death, as songster Bob Dylan tells us, died for human vanity. Nor do I believe there is a good reason he died. I do not believe it requires a good reason for one to call himself a Christian. It requires only mere belief.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anselm&#8217;s capacity for integrating diverse questions into seemingly coherent and even obvious (but only after his explanations) answers named his age: scholasticism. He was a magnificent scholar. Still, it was Paul of Tarsus who, with his image of Jesus as a second Adam, already had broken the ground that Anselm tilled so adroitly with the doctrine of atonement. Not every lose-end was knotted quite so tightly, at least not until the inquisitions began 75 years after Anselm&#8217;s death, developing unprecedented ferocity by the time the Jews of Spain were put in their place.</p>
<p>Historians offer varied accounts for the likely reasons, if one needs something other than common avarice. Unmentioned, in my experience, is that the Abrahamic religions share the story of the father and his son, Isaac, that prohibits the ritual sacrifice of humans. &#8220;The ram&#8221; can be sacrificed. The human, child or adult, cannot&#8211;righteously. </p>
<p>I call myself a &#8220;Good Friday Christian,&#8221; as that is what I celebrate at the time of the Spring equinox. It is a time to weep for all the innocent who have been put to death: Jesus of Nazareth, to be sure; six million Hebrews two millennia later, again to be sure. No one can be sure how many lives taken under the order of our legal system were undeserving of their punishment. Good Friday betokens how ready we, as righteous, are to take a human life, against all the evidence of our flawed capacity for judgments even far less severe.</p>
<p>I have found no good reason for all those deaths, as no reason can account for the death of Jesus. So I no longer ask why he had to die. He did not have to die, anymore than any of the other innocents. Instead I ask why we are so timid and cowardly in the face of such horror. Why must we have a good reason to object? Otherwise, then, we must face, what? The abyss, as Heidegger names it? Or the absurd, as the secular existentialists name it? Neither the abyss nor the absurd has power to command us. Nor do they offer us a mirror to admire ourselves as did Narcissus in the pool.</p>
<p>While I do not confine myself to the theology of Ecclesiastes, time has certainly showed us the strength of the plaint, &#8220;Vanity, vanity, all is vanity.&#8221; I do not believe the man who died a criminal&#8217;s death, as songster Bob Dylan tells us, died for human vanity. Nor do I believe there is a good reason he died. I do not believe it requires a good reason for one to call himself a Christian. It requires only mere belief.</p>
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		<title>Comment on #55 iHeroes, iReligion, and iHistory by Jeffrey Coleman (@TheMediaRunner)</title>
		<link>http://thenakedtheologian.com/2011/10/12/55-iheroes-ireligion-and-ihistory/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Coleman (@TheMediaRunner)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey - not sure where to say this, but you&#039;ve omitted an important word in the beginning of your third paragraph. So you should fix that.
It&#039;s not that big a deal, but I figure you should know.

In other news, I love the essay you&#039;ve written here.

I fell in love with history at a very young age, because of all the heroes and &#039;Great Men&#039; depicted (Where were the &#039;Great Women&#039;?) and all their &#039;Great Deeds.&#039;

I now am much more in love with &#039;social / cultural history&#039; and (in my search for helpful present-day analogies) have become an avid follower of pop culture, sports, and technology.

I am also fascinated with the ways people live out, use, and/or understand religion. So you can be sure I&#039;ll be coming back to your blog again and again.

(There&#039;s plenty to read, even if you were to update it only once or twice this year. So whatever you do, I wish you the best.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; not sure where to say this, but you&#8217;ve omitted an important word in the beginning of your third paragraph. So you should fix that.<br />
It&#8217;s not that big a deal, but I figure you should know.</p>
<p>In other news, I love the essay you&#8217;ve written here.</p>
<p>I fell in love with history at a very young age, because of all the heroes and &#8216;Great Men&#8217; depicted (Where were the &#8216;Great Women&#8217;?) and all their &#8216;Great Deeds.&#8217;</p>
<p>I now am much more in love with &#8216;social / cultural history&#8217; and (in my search for helpful present-day analogies) have become an avid follower of pop culture, sports, and technology.</p>
<p>I am also fascinated with the ways people live out, use, and/or understand religion. So you can be sure I&#8217;ll be coming back to your blog again and again.</p>
<p>(There&#8217;s plenty to read, even if you were to update it only once or twice this year. So whatever you do, I wish you the best.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on #10 God, will You be my Valentine? by Michelle Pink</title>
		<link>http://thenakedtheologian.com/2009/02/10/10-god-will-you-be-my-valentine/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Pink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful</p>
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		<title>Comment on #20 God:  only four short steps away by Hunter</title>
		<link>http://thenakedtheologian.com/2009/04/28/20-god-only-four-short-steps-away/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact that you turned Neruda, who was an outspoken athiest that actually wrote of humanism rather than religion, into THIS upsets me greatly. I am a religious guy myself, but, to me, this seems disrespectful to his work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that you turned Neruda, who was an outspoken athiest that actually wrote of humanism rather than religion, into THIS upsets me greatly. I am a religious guy myself, but, to me, this seems disrespectful to his work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on #32 The wait for God is over by Mirjam</title>
		<link>http://thenakedtheologian.com/2009/09/09/32-the-wait-for-god-is-over/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mirjam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course something must not &#039;exist&#039; to be real. If you make God a reality for yourself, however, the whole God-thing becomes a purely psychological  issue and I am not so sure if that conclusion would make me happy...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course something must not &#8216;exist&#8217; to be real. If you make God a reality for yourself, however, the whole God-thing becomes a purely psychological  issue and I am not so sure if that conclusion would make me happy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on #56 Ode to the &#8220;Little Way&#8221; by rexsty</title>
		<link>http://thenakedtheologian.com/2011/12/11/56-ode-to-the-little-way-2/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rexsty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You sure do tackle the tough questions. Denial is one of my primary adversaries. I have learned to be good at it, but eventually it takes its toll.

I try to turn being a beggar into a strength, but feel I need to keep it to myself. That is to say, I still pray, long after being disabused of all notions that prayers are answered. I feel weakness in the face of the barterers who have something to trade for whatever it is they want. And I will play their game out of necessity most of the time. But I long for a time when we honored beggars (as they still do in Asia) by freely giving what they require. I have never personally known persons with such a vocation, although a few passing contacts have given me a little first-hand information.

Stories of the uncanny human capacities evidenced by historic figures (and contemporaries as in Somalia) humble my arrogance. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sure do tackle the tough questions. Denial is one of my primary adversaries. I have learned to be good at it, but eventually it takes its toll.</p>
<p>I try to turn being a beggar into a strength, but feel I need to keep it to myself. That is to say, I still pray, long after being disabused of all notions that prayers are answered. I feel weakness in the face of the barterers who have something to trade for whatever it is they want. And I will play their game out of necessity most of the time. But I long for a time when we honored beggars (as they still do in Asia) by freely giving what they require. I have never personally known persons with such a vocation, although a few passing contacts have given me a little first-hand information.</p>
<p>Stories of the uncanny human capacities evidenced by historic figures (and contemporaries as in Somalia) humble my arrogance. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on #54 Wrong beliefs about beliefs by Seth</title>
		<link>http://thenakedtheologian.com/2011/09/28/54-wrong-beliefs-about-beliefs/#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I came from a very conservative fundamentalist background and believed that homosexuals, Buddhists, atheists, Muslims, etc. were all going to hell.  But that changed when I met homosexuals, Buddhists, atheists, Muslims...  So I know first hand that beliefs can change in this way.

I think you&#039;re half right.  Stories don&#039;t change people&#039;s beliefs, but people do.  It&#039;s easy to believe in the justice of condemning a theoretical, unknown, and villainized person, but it&#039;s much more difficult to condemn an actual person who is sitting in front of you and with whom you have a genuine connection.  It&#039;s not the sharing of the information that&#039;s effective, it&#039;s the sharing of the person.  And as far as I can tell, it&#039;s the most effective means of bridge building that we have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came from a very conservative fundamentalist background and believed that homosexuals, Buddhists, atheists, Muslims, etc. were all going to hell.  But that changed when I met homosexuals, Buddhists, atheists, Muslims&#8230;  So I know first hand that beliefs can change in this way.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re half right.  Stories don&#8217;t change people&#8217;s beliefs, but people do.  It&#8217;s easy to believe in the justice of condemning a theoretical, unknown, and villainized person, but it&#8217;s much more difficult to condemn an actual person who is sitting in front of you and with whom you have a genuine connection.  It&#8217;s not the sharing of the information that&#8217;s effective, it&#8217;s the sharing of the person.  And as far as I can tell, it&#8217;s the most effective means of bridge building that we have.</p>
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